[4E][Warlock Build]Stealth流Warlock

[lqj]

选择提夫林.你的Stealth可以获得2点种族加成.
选择Fey Pact.
选择7级Fey Pact下的Mire the Mind遭遇型威能.通过Fey Pact,此威能可以把你的智力调整加到Stealth检定上去,持续到遭遇结束.
用16,16,12,12,10,8的属性开卡.把两个16给魅力和智力,把两个12给体质和敏捷,10给力量,8给感知.30级时你可以拥有24的魅力和智力.14的体质和敏捷.通过Mire the Mind你可以从体质和敏捷属性中获得7+2=9点的Stealth.
Warlock的职业技能列表里并没有Stealth.不过你可以用两个专长获得Stealth受训和专攻,从中获得5+3=8点的Stealth.
购买一件+6的Sylvan Armor.此盔甲可以把它的增强加值加到你的Stealth上.这意味着你从中获得6点Stealth.

于是当你30级时,你的Stealth加值为:15(一半等级)+2(种族)+9(属性)+8(专长)+6(装备)=40

如果你在传奇等级时进阶Demigod,你可以在两项属性上再分别加2点,选择魅力和智力.于是由于智力的提升你的Stealth增加到+41.当然你硬要放弃魅力选智力和敏捷也可以把Stealth堆到+42.
如果你在传奇等级选择了Eternal Seeker进阶,那么选择学习贼的22级Utility Power----Hide from the Light. 此威能可以让你在成功的Stealth检定过后,以次级动作获得隐形状态,持续到遭遇结束.只要你一回合中移动不超过2格,只要你除了基本攻击和随意型威能外不用其他方式攻击,这个隐形状态就不会解除.选择这个进阶你的Stealth将还是只有+40.

战斗时正常速度移动将给你的Stealth带来-5的惩罚.有个Paragon Tier的专长可以消除这个影响.

我们可爱的恶魔王子奥胖子Perception+28,被动为38.这是目前我发现的4E MM上Perception最高的生物.其次高的似乎只有+26,被动36.
除了个别生物外,大多数生物都不具备盲视或者震颤感知等等反隐形的能力.
这意味着只要你每轮保持移动3格以上以获得Shadow Walk效果,你就能通过其带来的隐蔽而一直使用Stealth.而你高到近乎BT的Stealth技能将使你在大部分时间面对无盲视及震颤感知等能力的敌人时,能拥有媲美甚至超越3R高隐的效果(作为一个技能,意味着随时随地无次数限制的使用).除了自身安全外,这还带来两个额外的好处----你几乎可以一直保持对敌人的战斗优势,而你也可以大胆的去发挥你Prime Shot的职业能力.在AB宝贵的4E时代这还是不无小补的.

PS:此Build在7级即可初成雏形.你需要根据你的实际等级来调整开卡属性来获得最优的配置.

此文仅提供一个思路,当然还有更多的猥琐用法等待大家去发掘.

另:此文在龙堡也发了一篇.这是连接
http://www.cndkc.net/bbs/thread-31179-1-1.html

[Alanryan]

对方可以-5命中楞砸……

[brainfish]

1. stealth只是保持hidden的状态，而不能凭空获得hidden状态。
2. 攻击以后自动失去hidden。

Hide from the light确实很好，但warlock不是rog，只能用at will的话攻击弱很多，何况hide from the light是daily。

[lqj]

1. stealth只是保持hidden的状态，而不能凭空获得hidden状态。
2. 攻击以后自动失去hidden。

Hide from the light确实很好，但warlock不是rog，只能用at will的话攻击弱很多，何况hide from the light是daily。

hidden状态可以通过每次移动后的stealth检定来获得.先攻击再移动便解决了.

Hide from the light么,自然只是提供一种思路而已.移动2格便会解除效果的话,其实对于远程单位的warlock来说比贼反而有不少优势.

不过需要把移动放最后,这也确实是一个很大的弊端就是.

[lqj]

对方可以-5命中楞砸……

这通常不是问题.
在战场上还有其他可见目标的时候,敌人通常没有理由去盲目攻击一个看不到的对手.
由于shadow walk的隐蔽效果只要移动3格即可触发,因此对于速度有6的人物来说,敌人并不一定能精确估计最结束移动后所在的位置.

[Alanryan]

但考虑到队友的话，这个战术提供的超强自保能力就没什么意义了，毕竟这并不太有助于Warlock更好地控制对方或者将对方干掉，反而会因为战术的限制使得输出和控制力都受影响，导致团队整体战斗力下降……所以我感觉，这是一个适合solo的战术

[krw]

虽然这个方法可以一定程度的增强自保能力
但是对团队并无益处
至多是把本来应该分在你身上的伤害转移到队友身上

如果DM就是要打你，分两个远程怪ready action就完了，毕竟4E的战斗大多数是怪多PC少的情况

[水银]

我的规则判定：wlk利用职业能力造concealment然后stealth可以，但是对方一般都可以知道你的位置，因为潜行不是隐身，只有那一格提供concealment的话，对方就可以知道你在那一格。同样因为不是隐身，别人攻击你的话只受concealment -2 AB的影响。stealth高的唯一好处就是对方不知道你在那格干嘛，所以应该不能OA你，并且你对对方有combat advantage。

[brainfish]

concealment只是能让你进行stealth check，以保持hidden状态，而非获得hidden状态。
在被注视的情况下消失，光有concelament或cover是不行的，必须有total concealment或者total cover。

[lqj]

Question:

I've seen this talked about a great deal on the boards, but haven't seen a CSR answer to this. Is a Warlock's concealment from Shadow Walk sufficient to make a stealth check while moving and cause enemies to "lose track" of him, and therefore no longer know the Warlock's exact location?

Page Number: 131, 188, 281
Book Name: Player's Hand Book

Answer:

The warlock's Shadow Walk ability is sufficient to make a stealth check.

Paul
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast

Evan T. (Wizard CSR) 19/06/2008
Can ranged attackers, eg. rogues and rangers, use cover (eg, walls, pillars) or concealment (eg. bushes, darkness) to make stealth attacks during combat?
You can make a stealth attempt with any action that you do.So, if you have cover or concealment, you can attempt to hide yourself as part of your attack. If you are successful, then you are given combat advantage against your opponents who can not see you.

Let's say you're an archer or a stealthy warlock in combat in an area whose squares each provide soft cover, such as a lightly forested battlemap or a graveyard where you can take cover behind tombstones. The rules allow you to gain cover while standing in a square that includes a small tree or low covering, etc.

Assume that you are currently unhidden and visible to the enemy. Since your space provides constant cover, can you use a minor action to hide in your space without moving? (If so I'm guessing that the enemy would still be able to attack your square and have a -5 penalty to hit you, since they can reasonably guess you haven't moved.)

On a similar note, in the above example can you hide in your square using a minor action then pop out and do a standard action ranged attack and gain combat advantage because you were hidden? (ie. Even though the enemy is pretty sure you are still in the same square, they don't know your exact posture or position or timing of your attack so are at a disadvantage to defend themselves against it.)

Finally if a rogue hides in a square behind a tree or tombstone, and a monster provokes an opportunity attack by trying to walk past the hidden rogue, is the rogue still considered hidden and gains combat advantage on the opportunity attack (and hence probably a sneak attack)?


I'm thinking the answer to all my questions is "yes", but since it's all kind of complicated I wanted to get a more official ruling on it. Thanks for all the help, you CS guys are great!


Answer:
As part of an action, you can make a Stealth check to hide, yes.
The enemy likely still knows you are there, but cannot see you, because you are behind the tree.

Yes, you can hide then attack with combat advantage.

Yes, the rogue could use Sneak Attack,if it has not already been used in that round.

Good Gaming!

Joe
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast

Question:
The official Player's Handbook FAQ added a Q&A regarding the results of being hidden in which it says "There are several benefits of being hidden from an enemy - you have combat advantage against them and they will have a more difficult time targeting you. Page 281 of the Player's Handbook explains the rules for targeting creatures you cannot see."

Since this new FAQ entry refers to the rules on p.281 for targetting creatures you can't see, does that mean that if you succeed at a Stealth check during combat to hide while an enemy is watching you that the enemy now cannot see you, has to guess at the square you're in and suffers a -5 penalty to attack you?

Answer:
Yes, that is correct. You enemy will take a -5 to attack you if you make a successful stealth check. Please let me know if you need anymore help!

Tony
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast